444 return code and rate limiting

B.R. reallfqq-nginx at yahoo.fr
Wed Sep 28 16:50:12 UTC 2016

If you are to quote what you call documentation, please use some real one:

What I said before remains valid: accepting connection, reading request &
writing response use resources, by design, even if you thn close the
When dealing with DoS, I suspect Web servers and WAF (even worse, trying to
transform a Web server in a WAF!) are inefficient compared to lower-level
Use tools best suitable to the job...

DoS is all about processing capacity vs incoming flow. Augmenting the
processing consumption reduces capacity.

Issuing simple return costs less than using maps, which in turn is better
than processing more stuff.
If your little collection sustains your targeted incoming flow then you
win, otherwise you lose.
Blatantly obvious assertions if you ask me...

I do not know what you are trying to achieve here. Neither do you as it
seems, or you would not be asking questions about it.
​Good luck, though.​
*B. R.*

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 9:12 PM, <lists at lazygranch.com> wrote:

> If you dig through some old posts, it was established that the deny
> feature of nginx isn't very effective at limiting‎ network activity. I deny
> at the firewall.
> What remains is if you should deny dynamically or statically. ‎
>   Original Message
> From: c0nw0nk
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:42 AM
> To: nginx at nginx.org
> Reply To: nginx at nginx.org
> Subject: Re: 444 return code and rate limiting
> It is a response by the time the 444 is served it is to late a true DDoS is
> not about what the server outputs its about what it can receive you can't
> expect incoming traffic that amounts to 600Gbps to be prevented by a 1Gbps
> port it does not work like that Nginx is an Application preventing any for
> of DoS at an application level is a bad idea it needs to be stopped at a
> router level before it hits the server to consume your receiving capacity
> of
> 1Gbps.
> Adding IP address denies for DDoS to the Nginx .conf file at the
> application
> level is to late still also the connection has been made the request
> headers
> / data of 100kb or less what ever the client sent has been received on your
> 1Gig port its already consuming your connection.
> The only scenario I can think of where returning 444 is a good idea is
> under
> a single IP flooding "DoS" because then your not increasing your ports
> bandwidth output responding to someone who is opening and closing a
> connection, But in this scenario its more like they are trying to make your
> server DoS itself by making it max out its own outgoing bandwidth to just
> their connection alone so nobody else can receive anything.
> Posted at Nginx Forum: https://forum.nginx.org/read.
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