<html><head></head><body lang="en-US" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: initial;"> <div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">The IP addresses from the Google app aren't those of Google. They are ISPs generally. </div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">What bugs me is a fair number of these IP addresses never read my web pages. Easy enough to see from access.log. They just look for photos. If I served ads, I would be furious. But what I perceive is Google provides hot linking, pure and simple. I find it annoying. So now the app is tamed. The can always click on visit page.</div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">At one time the Google image search, as run from the browser, would be blocked if the user clicked on the image. I have the code to stop hot linking in my conf file. But now Google does some weird thing where the image link is not to my website, but is some conglomeration of my URL embedded in a google URL. I assume there is a redirect scheme going on, but the bottom line is the browser gets the full size image without ever clicking on a html file.</div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">I try to be as unobtrusive as possible on my website. I don't use Google analytics. I don't serve ads. Most pages have no Javascript, so you can use no script if you want. All that said, I'm probably going to set up a scheme where if the IP hadn't read an html file within a given time period, I will 403 image requests. I'd like to do it without a session cookie. </div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">I don't have an issue with the Google bot reading image files for indexing. What I want is for Google to provide links to the relevant page, not serve the image directly. </div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">I've used the Google image search from time to time to judge the user experience, and it isn't good in general other than finding photos of famous people. </div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; line-height: initial; text-align: initial;"><br></span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Case in point, do a search on the SU-27, which is a plane recently in the news. You get a lot of SU-35s. Is this really rocket science? I assume Google has no trust in image tags. But many images have SU-35 in text, which could be read using openCV, as is done with openALPR. But I'm rambling.....</div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; line-height: initial;"><br></span></div> <div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br style="display:initial"></div> <div style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div> <table width="100%" style="background-color:white;border-spacing:0px;"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; font-family: Tahoma, 'BB Alpha Sans', 'Slate Pro'; font-size: 10pt;"> <div><b>From: </b>Richard Stanway</div><div><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, June 22, 2017 8:03 AM</div><div><b>To: </b>nginx@nginx.org</div><div><b>Reply To: </b>nginx@nginx.org</div><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: block google app</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(186, 188, 209); border-top-width: 1pt; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div><br><div id="_originalContent" style=""><div dir="ltr">That user agent doesn't belong to a Google crawler - they are end-user requests from the Google App (mobile application). I'm not sure what the motivation is for blocking them but I wouldn't consider it malicious / unwanted traffic.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Jeff Dyke <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeff.dyke@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeff.dyke@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I'm glad you found the solution, but being a Google crawler, it would likely respect a robots.txt file with Disallow: images/*, which if it worked would allow you to remove an if clause from being evaluated on every page load. <div><br></div><div>You may have already tried it. But i have a feeling you'll start to find more that are after this directory. When i was at an image heavy start up, we had every one imaginable. </div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Jeff</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:40 PM, <a href="mailto:lists@lazygranch.com" target="_blank">lists@lazygranch.com</a> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lists@lazygranch.com" target="_blank">lists@lazygranch.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I'm sending 403 responses now, so I screwed up by mistaking the fields<br>
in the logs. I'm going back to lurking mode again with my tail<br>
shamefully between my legs.<br>
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This code in the image location section will block the google app:<br>
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if ($http_user_agent ~* (com.google.GoogleMobile)) {<br>
return 403;<br>
}<br>
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403 107.2.5.162 - - [21/Jun/2017:07:21:08 +0000] "GET /images/photo.jpg HTTP/1.1" 140 "-" "com.google.GoogleMobile/28.0.<wbr>0 iPad/10.3.2 hw/iPad6_7" "-"<br>
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