No HTTPS on nginx.org by default

[Maxim Konovalov]

On 8/22/16 8:15 PM, Richard Stanway wrote:
> Could you at least fix the https download page, so it doesn't
> directly link to a HTTP PGP key?
> 
It works correctly: https://nginx.org/en/download.html

> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Maxim Konovalov <maxim at nginx.com
> <mailto:maxim at nginx.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 8/22/16 7:41 PM, B.R. wrote:
>     > The problem is, if the GPG key is served through HTTP, there is no
>     > way to authenticate it, since it could be compromised through
>     MITM.
>     > I am very surprised to see myself being qualified as 'HTTPS
>     despot'
>     > when I just spot the obvious.
>     >
>     But it does not -- our PGP key distributed through a number of
>     channels, including HTTPS.  Problem solved, case closed?
> 
>     > Compromised repository + GPG key is one very powerful way of
>     > impersonating another product.
>     >
>     > TLS provides both encryption and authentication, based on the
>     > initial shared circle of trust.
>     > Thus you certify the GPG key is authentic and thus, if it verifies
>     > the binaries, you ensure the delivered package are produced by the
>     > owner of the key, in the end the real author.
>     >
>     > In 2016, stating that content served over HTTP is 'secure'
>     blows my
>     > mind and kills your credibility.
>     >
>     Who did that?  What's his name?
> 
>     > ​Now, as Richard pointed out, if you truly believe you need to
>     > provide HTTP-only, you can. It would be better if it was in a very
>     > visible fashion, though​.
>     > Where was despotism, again?
> 
>     nginx.org <http://nginx.org> already has HTTPS therefore it is
>     not HTTP-only.
> 
>     > ---
>     > *B. R.*
>     >
>     > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Richard Stanway
>     > <r1ch+nginx at teamliquid.net <mailto:r1ch%2Bnginx at teamliquid.net>
>     <mailto:r1ch+nginx at teamliquid.net
>     <mailto:r1ch%2Bnginx at teamliquid.net>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     1. You could provide insecure.nginx.org <http://insecure.nginx.org>
>     >     <http://insecure.nginx.org> mirror for such people, make
>     >     nginx.org <http://nginx.org> <http://nginx.org> secure by
>     default.
>     >
>     >     2. Modern server CPUs are already extremely energy efficient,
>     >     TLS adds negligible load. See https://istlsfastyet.com/
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >     On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Valentin V. Bartenev
>     >     <vbart at nginx.com <mailto:vbart at nginx.com> <mailto:vbart at nginx.com
>     <mailto:vbart at nginx.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >         On Sunday 21 August 2016 15:56:09 B.R. wrote:
>     >         > It is surprising, since I remember Ilya Grigorik made a talk about TLS
>     >         > during the first ever nginx conf in 2014:
>     >         > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHxD-G0YjiU
>     <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHxD-G0YjiU>
>     >         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHxD-G0YjiU
>     <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHxD-G0YjiU>>
>     >         > https://istlsfastyet.com/
>     >
>     >         It's just Ilya's opinion.  You are free to agree or not.
>     >
>     >
>     >         >
>     >         > Thus, there is no reason for not going full-HTTPS in delivering Web pages.
>     >
>     >         There are at least two reasons to not use HTTPS:
>     >
>     >          1. Provide easy access to information for people, who can't
>     >         use encryption
>     >             by political, legal, or technical reasons.
>     >
>     >          2. Don't waste resources on encryption, and thus save our
>     >         planet.
>     >
>     >         Please, don't be a TLS despot and let people to have a
>     >         choice to use encryption
>     >         or not.
>     >
>     >         I think the situation when I can't download new version of
>     >         OpenSSL using old
>     >         version of OpenSSL is ridiculous, but they have configured
>     >         openssl.org <http://openssl.org> <http://openssl.org>
>     that way.
>     >         How I supposed to use Internet then?
>     >
>     >           wbr, Valentin V. Bartenev
>     >
> 
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