Nginx securiy problem

Steve steeeeeveee at
Sun Dec 6 02:41:18 MSK 2009

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> Datum: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:27:25 -0800
> Von: Michael Shadle <mike503 at>
> An: nginx at
> Betreff: Re: Nginx securiy problem

> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Steve <steeeeeveee at> wrote:
> > And how would a Web UI have prevented that panic mode?
> See below - this isn't just web UI, but I see it as a chance to
> someone re-architect it a bit better. First, match feature set.
> Second, improve and adjust.
> > I think it would take you ages to get mailman to be on par with the
> possibilities a full blown up MTA is giving you. So for me the logical
> consequence is: Fully use mailman as much as possible but don't try to make it do
> something that it is not build for and that my MTA could do light years
> better then mailman could ever do.
> I just mean that it could possibly influence delivery or other
> mechanisms or in the case of some of those options additional mail
> headers is how it works, you can inject those in using the MTA or you
> could configure them using on the mailman level too.
> > While doing that code you will quickly realize that some limitations you
> are facing now will not vanish if you abstract mailman in a Web UI.
> Fundamental design flaws can't always be fixed with a nice GUI. You can
> definitely work around some design issues and handle that in the GUI but don't
> expect the mailman crew to be strict with their design flaws. They will fix and
> reorder things and you will hunt them. You will mostly be one or more step
> behind them. Some time you will be in front of them but that will happen
> rarely. And after some time doing this hunting you will come to the point
> asking yourself: Why am I doing this? WHY?
> FYI/FWIW: this isn't all about just a "fancy web UI" it's also about
> some modernization and simplification.
> I am happy you've had such success with mailman. However myself and
> other people I've talked to all have had similar pains with mailman.
> We should stop the discussion here as we're just going further and further
> OT.

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