New wiki

Merlin merlin at mahalo.com
Fri Mar 13 21:05:54 MSK 2009


I gotta say that Toni enumerated quite well what I was vaguely hinting at
with "this is a forum".

Along these same lines, I would like to bring up a related issue to the
webforum-linking-with-mailforum thing...  Can we please get a prefix or
suffix tag of [FORUM] or something?  This way we can use our superior MUA
searching/sorting/filtering features to do with them as we need.

Thanks,
Merlin

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Toni Mueller <support-nginx at oeko.net>wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I'm sorry, but I can't let you say this unanswered:
>
> On Thu, 12.03.2009 at 18:15:36 +0000, Jim Ohlstein <jim.ohlstein at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > A mailing list is a forum of sorts but without the features of more
> > sophisticated software.
>
> a mailing list is something entirely different, imho.
>
> > File attachments,
>
> send mail with an attachment
>
> > private messagiing,
>
> send email to one person only (ie, outside the list)
>
> > threaded discussions,
>
> standard feature of non-broken MUAs (ie, mutt, Thunderbird, Evolution,
> etc).
>
> > easy access to older posts
>
> mailing list archive, may be even downloadable
>
> > to name but a few.
>
> Forums typically have these additional drawbacks in my experience:
>
> - synchronous communications - ie, it won't work if the forum server
>  has a hiccup or is currently hacked.
>
> - tends to mess up attachments
>
> - stricter limits on attachment sizes
>
> - centralized (even private messages need to go through the server)
>
> - threading is usually sub-par with MUAs, flexible sorting and
>  searching is usually not available
>
> - sorting and searching taxes the server, not the client (as with MUAs)
>
> - broken search results with about any search engines because whole
>  threads appear on one page
>
> - usually no downloadable archives
>
> - tend to vanish in a whim if the admin loses interest, or if the forum
>  package gets swapped (all links break, nobody fixes them, archives
>  are lost forever)
>
> - slow performance, high cost for the operator (much higher than a
>  mailing list)
>
>
> > It's simply another way to communicate and get/offer support.
>
> Yes, and one that causes more fraction and friction to the user base
> (imho).
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
> --Toni++
>
>
>
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