New wiki

Maxim Dounin mdounin at
Sat Mar 14 14:35:03 MSK 2009


On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 06:31:35PM -0400, Jim Ohlstein wrote:

> I can set it for new threads only. That's easy. But that then obviates the
> idea of replying to a thread by email from the list.
> Setting up a different list would be a non-starter in my opinion. If people
> want emails from a forum there are other ways of getting them without
> creating yet another list.
> I'd be happy to discuss this via my email or at the forum itself. There's a
> place for site suggestions, and that forum does not get posted to the list.

As of now forum notifications is broken at least in following ways:

1. SHOOTING prefix in subject.

2. No valid References header, so no correct threading in mail 

3. No valid From header thus making impossible to understand 
who is message author without looking into message body.

4. No understanding of people posting to forum that this is in 
fact post to mailing list and quoting rules should be significally 
different from forum ones.

IMHO, either it the above should be fixed (and mailing list 
integration done at least as good as that on ruby-forum, 
effectively converting forum to yet another mailing list web 
interface) or any integration with mailing list should be switched 

It's not clear to me who will answer questions on forum if the 
mailing list integration will be switched off.  But with current 
quality of integration it's not acceptable and will damage mailing 
list usage.

Maxim Dounin

> From: owner-nginx at [mailto:owner-nginx at] On Behalf Of
> Merlin
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:02 PM
> To: nginx at
> Subject: Re: New wiki
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Wilfried Schobeiri <ws at>
> wrote:
> Not to complain or anything... But does anyone else think perhaps this
> should be taken off list or a separate list be made? My cell has never been
> so flooded with emails before...
> Regards,
> WS
> Sent via handheld 
> Not to add one more to the flood...  but this is an extremely valid point no
> one initially considered.  We have members of this list, which generally
> gets a pretty light peppering of traffic, and we are going to be spamming
> them messages from a forum, which is quite likely (due to the nature of
> webforums) to become much higher traffic and chatty than the email list.
> Emails are (again, generally) much more considered than forum posts and
> there is less of a tendency to post trivial/chatty messages to email groups
> than to forums.
> Perhaps we should syndicate new forum threads only to this list, or a
> completely different list.  We should be able to set up nginx.forums list
> and you can join that if you also would like to get the forum information
> bridged to your local mail.

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