New wiki

[Merlin]

It's not just for deleting; as an alternative to loading your server with
searches, we can search the [FORUM] tagged posts in the mailing list and we
can filter them to a specific folder (this is my approach).

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Jim Ohlstein <jim.ohlstein at gmail.com>wrote:

>  Again, it’s a comfort level thing.*Some* people prefer it. It’s been
> raised a few times so I’m running with it. If it succeeds fine. If not, I
> haven’t lost anything. I’m not married to it (though it probably will
> require less effort and money than does my wife :p).  I don’t plan to place
> any ads on it so it isn’t as though I’m going to make any money on it. In
> fact, it could conceivably cost money if it gets busy. It’s in a Virtuozzo
> container that costs me a few dollars a month. I own the license for the
> software and I’m not doing anything with it currently.
>
>
>
> There are two conditions under which it goes away. First is if it’s not
> used. Second is if I no longer have a way to host and maintain it (that
> would include me going away as in permanently). Either of those presupposes
> that no one wishes to take over the joy of it all.
>
>
>
> I believe that I have successfully edited the title and format of the
> emails that come from the site so you can delete them at will.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-nginx at sysoev.ru [mailto:owner-nginx at sysoev.ru] *On Behalf Of
> *Merlin
> *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2009 2:06 PM
> *To:* nginx at sysoev.ru
> *Subject:* Re: New wiki
>
>
>
> I gotta say that Toni enumerated quite well what I was vaguely hinting at
> with "this is a forum".
>
>
> Along these same lines, I would like to bring up a related issue to the
> webforum-linking-with-mailforum thing...  Can we please get a prefix or
> suffix tag of [FORUM] or something?  This way we can use our superior MUA
> searching/sorting/filtering features to do with them as we need.
>
> Thanks,
> Merlin
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Toni Mueller <support-nginx at oeko.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm sorry, but I can't let you say this unanswered:
>
>
> On Thu, 12.03.2009 at 18:15:36 +0000, Jim Ohlstein <jim.ohlstein at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > A mailing list is a forum of sorts but without the features of more
> > sophisticated software.
>
> a mailing list is something entirely different, imho.
>
> > File attachments,
>
> send mail with an attachment
>
> > private messagiing,
>
> send email to one person only (ie, outside the list)
>
> > threaded discussions,
>
> standard feature of non-broken MUAs (ie, mutt, Thunderbird, Evolution,
> etc).
>
>
> > easy access to older posts
>
> mailing list archive, may be even downloadable
>
>
> > to name but a few.
>
> Forums typically have these additional drawbacks in my experience:
>
> - synchronous communications - ie, it won't work if the forum server
>  has a hiccup or is currently hacked.
>
> - tends to mess up attachments
>
> - stricter limits on attachment sizes
>
> - centralized (even private messages need to go through the server)
>
> - threading is usually sub-par with MUAs, flexible sorting and
>  searching is usually not available
>
> - sorting and searching taxes the server, not the client (as with MUAs)
>
> - broken search results with about any search engines because whole
>  threads appear on one page
>
> - usually no downloadable archives
>
> - tend to vanish in a whim if the admin loses interest, or if the forum
>  package gets swapped (all links break, nobody fixes them, archives
>  are lost forever)
>
> - slow performance, high cost for the operator (much higher than a
>  mailing list)
>
>
>
> > It's simply another way to communicate and get/offer support.
>
> Yes, and one that causes more fraction and friction to the user base
> (imho).
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
> --Toni++
>
>
>
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